О защите своих граждан
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mkay422Французская полиция расследует нераскрытое убийство в Сан Франциско. Убитый имел двойное гражданство - Франции и США. Один из следователей полицейского управления СФ некоторое время назад заявил: "это будет считаться самоубийством, пока кто-нибудь не сознается". Тело с ножевыми ранениями было обнаружено в запертой квартире, ножа рядом не было.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/27/BAUP165QSD.DTL&hw=french&sn=002&sc=879
An unusual French investigation into the death of a French national in San Francisco concluded that the man was stabbed in a surprise attack outside his apartment and could not have committed suicide, as local authorities once suggested, the man's father said Thursday. Hugues de la Plaza, 36, was discovered dead inside his locked Hayes Valley apartment June 2, 2007, after neighbors found blood outside and called police.
The initial police investigation was inconclusive and the medical examiner - who makes the official determination - was unable to decide whether someone killed de la Plaza or he killed himself. The stab wounds could have been self-inflicted, an autopsy report said.
De la Plaza's family and friends have rejected any possibility that he committed suicide, pointing out that no bloody knife was found in the apartment. They also said de la Plaza, a sound engineer planning to move to Argentina, never indicated he intended to kill himself.
They began what became an international campaign to prove he had been slain. As part of it, they persuaded the French government to probe the death of de la Plaza, who held dual French and U.S. citizenship.
The French investigators, whose report has not been made public, determined that de la Plaza could not have stabbed himself based on "the way the knife entered," his father said. He was stabbed three times, once in the abdomen, once in the chest and once in the neck.
"Based on the angle of entrance, he could not have done it himself," the father said of the abdominal wound. "No knife was ever found. For them, it was rather obvious."
Francois de la Plaza said the forensic experts told him that a bruise on his son's forearm was suffered as he tried to ward off his killer.
After being fatally stabbed, the father said, de la Plaza closed the door behind his attacker and locked it. He said the French probe concluded that the stab wounds would have brought on shock and then an almost immediate coma, which would explain why his son did not call 911.
He said San Francisco police had told him soon after his son died that they were split on whether it was a homicide or suicide.
Inspector Antonio Casillas told him something "very surprising," he said. "He said, 'Until I see the person who confesses to this crime, I will rule this is a suicide.' "
Ну, про бесполезность и идиотизм поедателей донатов мы все знаем.
Но вот вопрос: можете ли вы представить, чтобы российская милиция защищала подобным образом права и безопасность собственных граждан?
Впрочем, вот одна история из России - немного в другую сторону: http://www.anekdot.ru/an/an0902/o090227;1.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/27/BAUP165QSD.DTL&hw=french&sn=002&sc=879
An unusual French investigation into the death of a French national in San Francisco concluded that the man was stabbed in a surprise attack outside his apartment and could not have committed suicide, as local authorities once suggested, the man's father said Thursday. Hugues de la Plaza, 36, was discovered dead inside his locked Hayes Valley apartment June 2, 2007, after neighbors found blood outside and called police.
The initial police investigation was inconclusive and the medical examiner - who makes the official determination - was unable to decide whether someone killed de la Plaza or he killed himself. The stab wounds could have been self-inflicted, an autopsy report said.
De la Plaza's family and friends have rejected any possibility that he committed suicide, pointing out that no bloody knife was found in the apartment. They also said de la Plaza, a sound engineer planning to move to Argentina, never indicated he intended to kill himself.
They began what became an international campaign to prove he had been slain. As part of it, they persuaded the French government to probe the death of de la Plaza, who held dual French and U.S. citizenship.
The French investigators, whose report has not been made public, determined that de la Plaza could not have stabbed himself based on "the way the knife entered," his father said. He was stabbed three times, once in the abdomen, once in the chest and once in the neck.
"Based on the angle of entrance, he could not have done it himself," the father said of the abdominal wound. "No knife was ever found. For them, it was rather obvious."
Francois de la Plaza said the forensic experts told him that a bruise on his son's forearm was suffered as he tried to ward off his killer.
After being fatally stabbed, the father said, de la Plaza closed the door behind his attacker and locked it. He said the French probe concluded that the stab wounds would have brought on shock and then an almost immediate coma, which would explain why his son did not call 911.
He said San Francisco police had told him soon after his son died that they were split on whether it was a homicide or suicide.
Inspector Antonio Casillas told him something "very surprising," he said. "He said, 'Until I see the person who confesses to this crime, I will rule this is a suicide.' "
Ну, про бесполезность и идиотизм поедателей донатов мы все знаем.
Но вот вопрос: можете ли вы представить, чтобы российская милиция защищала подобным образом права и безопасность собственных граждан?
Впрочем, вот одна история из России - немного в другую сторону: http://www.anekdot.ru/an/an0902/o090227;1.html
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Date: 2009-02-28 07:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-02 09:21 am (UTC)Нет, я реально не понимаю что вам не нравится - отличный капитализм, самая полная копия английского или американского образца 20х-30х которую только можно было создать в данных условиях.
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Date: 2009-03-02 03:55 pm (UTC)О чем вы - я лично не понял.
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Date: 2009-03-03 07:37 am (UTC)[i]Но вот вопрос: можете ли вы представить, чтобы российская милиция защищала подобным образом права и безопасность собственных граждан?[/i]
Я понимаю, что мой ответ на этот вопрос говорит о каких-то дефектах в моем мышлении, но другого у меня и многих моих соотечественников нет, уж извините...
Итак, отвечаю: Нет, не могу. Точнее, могу, но в моем понимании это требует истребления всех сотрудников милиции и их ближайших родственников, и заменой их какими-то другими людьми. Кошмар хуже, чем то что устроили большевики и нацисты, учитывая их количество. Выхода из этой ситуации нет, потому что даже если кто-то взмахнет волшебной палочкой и вся милиция и сотрудники спецслужб вдруг исчезнут, заменить их некем. Все кто есть в наличие (и я в том числе?) начнут все то же самое. Все кто хоть теоретически могли бы подойти - сидят в социалистических США и пишут в ЖЖ как в капиталистической России плохо жить.
Кстати, если даже этот колдун еще раз взмахнет, и новая российская милиция (и армия ) станет честной на уровне скажем, США и старой Европы - будет не меньший пиздец. Потому что это будет геноцид циган, народов Чечни, Дагестана и Таджикистана, а Афганистан вообще придется превратить в стеклянный каток. Да и дома репрессии будут почти как у Пол Пота.